Stunning Interview of Waco Branch Davidian Pastor Who Reveals Belief in Trump’s Role to ‘Clean the Swamp’ as Modern-Day Cyrus

Ben Berquam’s latest interview has everything any thrilling novel ever has had. A discussion of a Messianic Jewish Pastor, Charles Pace, and author of “Waco: The Branch Davidian Prophecies Fulfilled,” reveals stunning details about what happened at the devastating murder of men, women, and children by the Bill Clinton administration 30 years ago and what the denomination, which is still in existence, is focused on in 2023.

And what he tells Bergqma, he prefaces by saying that what happened to the victims of that terrible day – 30 years ago- has everything to do with his concerns for the country today.

Pace, who has a deep connection to the owners of the land where the church compound was, which was burned to the ground by the US Federal government, described the foundation of the land, the church, and the politics behind the historic government seizure of the property and murder of its inhabitants.

In a story that matches what we know happened in Benghazi under Hillary Clinton, Pace talked about the human trafficking of sex slaves, cocaine paste, and gun running to Iran- Contra and details about one the most televised power grabs over free humans that as ever happened.

The message at the time was clear; do what the government tells you to do. And at the time, people knew the Government was as corrupt as any third world.

Between 1981 and 1986, senior administration officials in the Clinton administration secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo. The administration hoped to use the proceeds of the arms sale to fund the Contras, a right-wing rebel group, in Nicaragua.

Making no excuses for the terrible actions of David Koresh who presented himself as God, Pace said that Koresh had discovered “2000 rifles in the basement of the church and was near where women and children were gassed to death,” which he shows Bergquam still stands as a gutted out hole.

In the short 6 min. Interview footage below, Pace describes a crime scene that has been ignored for three decades and talks about what that has to do with his support of President Donald J. Trump.

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Pace talked to Bergquam about the alleged role Jeb Bush, the brother of the next President after Clinton, George W. Bush, played in the national disaster as 17 children were murdered at the Waco, Texas, Branch Davidian massacre.

What we know from a 1988 Washington Post article about George Bush Sr, who was Vice President at the time. was his support of the contras- so there is some validity to Pace’s recollection:

“This is contra country, inhabited by CIA-trained rebel leaders and their followers, with more Nicaraguans arriving daily. This is, in fact, the one community where any revelation of a deeper involvement in the Iran-contra affair by former CIA director Bush would be viewed as a plus.

And so Bush was no more surprising than a summer squall here as he lashed out at Castro, the Sandinistas and a “fractured and fractious” Congress that, he said, employing a mixed metaphor, “pulls the plug out from under the president of the United States” by not voting for aid to the contras.”

Pace’s story does sound like a country with a troublesome “government swamp”.


Local Texas News KWTX recently reported on the details of what happened back then at the Branch Davidian Church:

Thirty years ago, more than 75 people died in a roaring fire at the Branch Davidian Compound, ending the 51-day standoff between law enforcement and the Branch Davidians. A KWTX reporter covered the standoff and remembered the events that led up to the tragic outcome.

Tommy Witherspoon, who reported for the Tribune-Herald during the time of the Siege, said he covered the start of the raid on Feb. 28, 1993.

“We were there to cover the raid, and we ended up getting shot at and landing a ditch for two and a half hours,” he said.

It was a horrible scene, as Bergquam heard from Pace, who is currently a pastor of the denomination.

“The government committed crimes against humanity to cover up their own crimes of humanity and people are covering their butts still,” Pace told Bergquam about why survivors of the government seize aren’t talking now about what they knew regarding the players.

Pace went on to describe how he believes, based on prophecy, that it is Trump who is going to clean up the swamp like Cyrus the Great did.

There are many people who believe that Trump is our modern-day Cyrus the Great, here is a google search.

Pace may be on to something.

According to the Wikipedia Page about Cyrus:

Cyrus the Great was the founder of the Achaemenid Empire and king of Persia from 559 to 530 BC. He is venerated in the Hebrew Bible as Cyrus the Messiah for conquering Babylon and liberating the Jews from captivity.

According to the Bible, Cyrus the Great, king of the Achaemenid Empire, was the monarch who ended the Babylonian captivity. In the first year of his reign he was prompted by God to decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt and that Jews who wished to could return to their homeland for this purpose. Moreover, he showed his interest in the project by sending back with them the sacred vessels which had been taken from the First Temple and a considerable sum of money with which to buy building materials.”


The WaPo article goes on to talk about the dynasty that the Bush family built on Bush family’s support of the Nicaraguans and how they used it for campaign support, even after the government was killing Americans just 5 years prior-without much concern:

Nicaraguans were among the Bush brigade who flew to New Hampshire and handed out Florida oranges before that primary. “The gal who answers the phone at Bush headquarters is my {Nicaraguan} cousin and the other lady working there is married to a Nicaraguan. Any time he needs 200 people for anything we can raise them very quickly.”

The candidates know that to speak out for the contras assures favorable headlines in the Spanish-language papers and the four heavily Cuban radio stations. There is a blood-brother tie between the Nicaraguan exiles and the Cubans in Miami.

Says Arguello, “You bad-mouth the Nicaraguans and the Cubans get very angry and vice versa.” (In fact, the head of the pro contra Concerned Citizens for Democracy is a Cuban.) Even though Arguello has been critical of the contra leadership, he works hard for money and clothing to send to the men he calls “freedom fighters.

The debt is, in part, to Jeb Bush, Florida’s secretary of commerce and George Bush’s son. “When Jeb was chairman of the Dade County Republican Party he successfully lobbied with INS {Immigration and Naturalization Service}, State and Justice to get us work permits so we could work legally in this country,” says Arguello, who works at a bank and heads a 400-member Nicaraguan American bankers association. “His father could have 10,000 faults and we would still vote for him. I told Robertson’s people there’s just no way. We’re very much involved in Bush’s campaign.”

And what Pace said about how what happened on his church property 30 years ago- is playing out in today’s politics and news- was absolutely right- politicians- other than Trump- bypass Americans and pander to immigrants to get elected.

Do you see that in this story? Read the whole WA article. Everything old is new again for 2024.

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